06-04-2012
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Mid-Corner Speed Master / Advanced Member (1,000+ Posts)
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Thank you. Thank you very much.
Canada raised tuition rates so students are protesting. They just shut down the open house at the GP, day one of my first vacation in years. They are protesting the fact that ONE YEAR of college tuition will now cost an outrageous $3500. Oh the injustice.
BTW. If you see me anytime soon, do not anger me or I will punch your sister.
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06-04-2012
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Entry Speed Demon / Advanced Member (100+ Posts)
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Re: Thank you. Thank you very much.
LOL
.... and my sister will punch you back
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06-04-2012
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Winning Races / Advanced Member (250+ Posts)
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Originally Posted by oldredracer
Canada raised tuition rates so students are protesting. They just shut down the open house at the GP, day one of my first vacation in years. They are protesting the fact that ONE YEAR of college tuition will now cost an outrageous $3500. Oh the injustice.
BTW. If you see me anytime soon, do not anger me or I will punch your sister.
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"Socialism" pissin in Paul's Cheerios once again... I don't know how you live there ... Ohhh, wait... Lol
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06-04-2012
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Carbon Fiber Keyboard (3,000+ Posts)
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Re: Thank you. Thank you very much.
Call up Paul Subject... He'll show you a good time.
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Originally Posted by rcote
"Socialism" pissin in Paul's Cheerios once again... I don't know how you live there ... Ohhh, wait... Lol
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06-05-2012
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Podium Regular / Advanced Member (50+ Posts)
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Age: 39
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Re: Thank you. Thank you very much.
Considering the difference in the way the US and Canada are handled as far as the tax/fees ratio goes, the tuition fees in either countries cannot be compared...
Canada, especially Quebec has a very high tax rate, therefore, tuition fees for schools or hospital bills are cheap, if non-existent...
In the states, taxes are low, but health insurance, tuition...etc are high...
Getting all the inconvenient of the States without the advantage of Canada would honestly suck hahaha
While I understand that the strike is getting a bit annoying, especailly here (it's been over 100 days), keep in mind the situation is not at all comparable to yours in the states... Whether you like or not the way Canada/Quebec is handled is another debate.
I am personnally annoyed by all those protests everyday that litteraly make traffic unbearable in Montreal, but I also somewhat understand their point of view...
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06-06-2012
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Speed Through Zen / Advanced Member (2,000+ Posts)
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Re: Thank you. Thank you very much.
Hi Flavien--
I (and my extended family and close friends) live or have lived in different countries under a variety of govermental and political philosophies, including Canada, a country I am quite fond of. I hesitate to get into political discussions on Juicy because it is so nice to have a place where we can be passionately expressive about our love for the sweet science and adrenaline of racing without the divisiveness that has come to characterize political discussion, on both sides. It is a perceived "cultural war" that people seem unable to not take personally and that I feel does not serve our ability to make the tough decisions required by our larger goals either as people or nations.
That having been said, regardless of the tax rates, $3500 dollars a year for a quality university education is on the very low end ANYWHERE in the world. Professors must be fairly compensated, equipment must be modernized, facilities need to be maintained, educational and research grants have to come from somewhere. A sudden rise in prices is painful, but Canadians have to face the same thing as the whole world: we are living in a time when we all MUST come to grips with the true cost of quality goods and services since we have finally exhausted the willingness of creditors to allow us ALL to kick the true cost into the future through issuance of unending low-interest government debt.
People need to get a REALISTIC perspective on life and get a grip. Safety, the rule of law, quality of life, education and health, and civil liberties have a price, and it's not cheap.
p.s. and the US is only a "low tax" country if one has the luxury of structuring income appropriately. For those who must earn active rather than passive income, the combined federal, state, and local bites result in rates nearly as high as anywhere else, yet we pay very dearly for college and health care. Which leads to a discussion on the fairness of OUR tax code, but that's a whole nuther can of worms.
I return you to your regularly scheduled racing-related rants.
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06-06-2012
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Podium Regular / Advanced Member (50+ Posts)
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Age: 39
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Re: Thank you. Thank you very much.
I come from France where University studies, cost close to nothing so I do have a hard time understanding the cost of studies here, and in the US... Also keep in mind that these are the cost of tuitions only... Tuitions in my University (Concordia, here in Montreal) represent 50% of the total REAL fees we have to pay... Tons of stuff are added to it.
Yearly, right now, I pay about 6500$ a year + 1000$ worth of books... After the raise it should get up to 10000$+ books...
3500$ a year in tuition is actually on the high side of things when compared to most countries in the world... University stuides in Finland, Sweden, Denmark or Norway are totally free and they have some of the highest GDPs on Earth. Promoting studies and making them as cheap as possible are I think necessary for the developpement of a country... It,s good for everyone to have the government do its best to bring access to studies to all type of social class... "Brains" are what do a country... Impeaching those brains of developping to their full extent because they don't have money during their youth is not the right solution to me
It might sound "leftist" hehe, but I think it's the role of the country to financially make studies as accessible as possible to everyone (without cumulating 3 jobs and a loan of 20 years to afford it)
I have the luck of having my parents pay for everything... but it's not the case for most of my friends...
Also expensive tuition fees seem to be rather anglophone countries specific... UK, Canada, USA, Australia...etc
All the other countries in the world have MUCH smaller tuitions fees...
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/...d-1684927.html
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