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Canada raised tuition rates so students are protesting. They just shut down the open house at the GP, day one of my first vacation in years. They are protesting the fact that ONE YEAR of college tuition will now cost an outrageous $3500. Oh the injustice.
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Canada raised tuition rates so students are protesting. They just shut down the open house at the GP, day one of my first vacation in years. They are protesting the fact that ONE YEAR of college tuition will now cost an outrageous $3500. Oh the injustice.
BTW. If you see me anytime soon, do not anger me or I will punch your sister.
"Socialism" pissin in Paul's Cheerios once again... I don't know how you live there ... Ohhh, wait... Lol
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Call up Paul Subject... He'll show you a good time.

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Considering the difference in the way the US and Canada are handled as far as the tax/fees ratio goes, the tuition fees in either countries cannot be compared...
Canada, especially Quebec has a very high tax rate, therefore, tuition fees for schools or hospital bills are cheap, if non-existent...
In the states, taxes are low, but health insurance, tuition...etc are high...
Getting all the inconvenient of the States without the advantage of Canada would honestly suck hahaha

While I understand that the strike is getting a bit annoying, especailly here (it's been over 100 days), keep in mind the situation is not at all comparable to yours in the states... Whether you like or not the way Canada/Quebec is handled is another debate.

I am personnally annoyed by all those protests everyday that litteraly make traffic unbearable in Montreal, but I also somewhat understand their point of view...
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Hi Flavien--

I (and my extended family and close friends) live or have lived in different countries under a variety of govermental and political philosophies, including Canada, a country I am quite fond of. I hesitate to get into political discussions on Juicy because it is so nice to have a place where we can be passionately expressive about our love for the sweet science and adrenaline of racing without the divisiveness that has come to characterize political discussion, on both sides. It is a perceived "cultural war" that people seem unable to not take personally and that I feel does not serve our ability to make the tough decisions required by our larger goals either as people or nations.

That having been said, regardless of the tax rates, $3500 dollars a year for a quality university education is on the very low end ANYWHERE in the world. Professors must be fairly compensated, equipment must be modernized, facilities need to be maintained, educational and research grants have to come from somewhere. A sudden rise in prices is painful, but Canadians have to face the same thing as the whole world: we are living in a time when we all MUST come to grips with the true cost of quality goods and services since we have finally exhausted the willingness of creditors to allow us ALL to kick the true cost into the future through issuance of unending low-interest government debt.

People need to get a REALISTIC perspective on life and get a grip. Safety, the rule of law, quality of life, education and health, and civil liberties have a price, and it's not cheap.

p.s. and the US is only a "low tax" country if one has the luxury of structuring income appropriately. For those who must earn active rather than passive income, the combined federal, state, and local bites result in rates nearly as high as anywhere else, yet we pay very dearly for college and health care. Which leads to a discussion on the fairness of OUR tax code, but that's a whole nuther can of worms.

I return you to your regularly scheduled racing-related rants.
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I come from France where University studies, cost close to nothing so I do have a hard time understanding the cost of studies here, and in the US... Also keep in mind that these are the cost of tuitions only... Tuitions in my University (Concordia, here in Montreal) represent 50% of the total REAL fees we have to pay... Tons of stuff are added to it.
Yearly, right now, I pay about 6500$ a year + 1000$ worth of books... After the raise it should get up to 10000$+ books...

3500$ a year in tuition is actually on the high side of things when compared to most countries in the world... University stuides in Finland, Sweden, Denmark or Norway are totally free and they have some of the highest GDPs on Earth. Promoting studies and making them as cheap as possible are I think necessary for the developpement of a country... It,s good for everyone to have the government do its best to bring access to studies to all type of social class... "Brains" are what do a country... Impeaching those brains of developping to their full extent because they don't have money during their youth is not the right solution to me
It might sound "leftist" hehe, but I think it's the role of the country to financially make studies as accessible as possible to everyone (without cumulating 3 jobs and a loan of 20 years to afford it)
I have the luck of having my parents pay for everything... but it's not the case for most of my friends...

Also expensive tuition fees seem to be rather anglophone countries specific... UK, Canada, USA, Australia...etc
All the other countries in the world have MUCH smaller tuitions fees...
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/...d-1684927.html
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1000$ worth of books
$1,000 per semester? Or year?

Either way, anyone paying $1,000 for books isn't utilizing the power of the internet, ISBN numbers, and International Editions. That, or the school is trying to recoup some of their losses by insisting that the students buy the newest editions every year.

This is coming from someone who has two undergrad majors and two undergrad minors (from a private US university), and has a Master's degree (public university)...
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Per year of course... more like 1200-1500$
But I am in Political science major... I have TONS of books to buy... and most are not even text books, just huge piles of papers that costs A LOT, even used on amazon or half.com...
Around 400$ per quarter (I do summer) if I am lucky.
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Per year of course... more like 1200-1500$
But I am in Political science major... I have TONS of books to buy... and most are not even text books, just huge piles of papers that costs A LOT, even used on amazon or half.com...
Around 400$ per quarter (I do summer) if I am lucky.
Mine were a BA in English, BA in Psychology (minors in British Literature and Technical Theatre), and a Master of Social Work: Policy Practice. I had a ton of papers to read for both the Psychology BA and the MSW; doesn't your school have electronic access that you can get into with your school ID? That's how I read almost everything that wasn't in book form.
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Really? Really??

Villeneuve received death threats in Montreal

9 June 2012
Former Formula 1 World Champion Jacques Villeneuve has received multiple threats from Montreal's protesting students. The protesters in Montreal have used F1's arrival in the city as a chance to have their voices heard as the Quebec government proposes a significant rise in tuition fees.
On Thursday, Villeneuve was quoted as saying: “I think it is now time for these people to wake up and stop complaining. It has lasted long enough now. They probably never had parents who told them 'no' at a certain point. This is costing the city a fortune, it makes no sense. The people should now grow up.”
According to CBC News, Villeneuve has now received multiple death threats via e-mail. The 1997 title winner is expected to be back in the F1 paddock on Saturday.
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Quebecquois are not French, they're just canadians who happen to speak french
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That was a political / social comment, not a national one
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Oh ok, sry
All my american friends tend to mix french and quebecquois while they actually don't share much so... I got this "autocorrect" habit from them lol
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